Thursday, February 19, 2009

Horus & Jesus - The Same God?

After watching ZietGeist The Movie, and understanding the corruption behind religious institutions, such as the Catholic Church; it is with certainty that I declare it all to be another system of control, through fear and manipulation. By using stories, with no proven credibility, leaders were able to create an actual history, that plays on a fear no man has a cure for; death. One can observe modern day history, to see the industries and technology being generated to reverse the aging process, and sustain life. Church, has become just another tax-free system, using monetary compensation to pay for salvation. Except instead of a botox injection or tummy tuck, one may utilize a Pastor, Preist, Profit, Reverend or Head of Church to get a quick shot of temporary relief, in the form of communion or prayer. In fact, the largest grossing book sales of 2008 alone, belong to the BIBLE; which sold over 55 Million copies.

That's where my questions begin to pore in . If Christians, which account for 1/6th of the world's population, somehow found the similarities between Jesus and at least 30 other Sun (Pagan) gods; dated thousands of years before Christ, would they tithe as hard? Personally I grew up Catholic and converted to Lutheranism. Church was not a one day thing, and teaching Sunday school was an honor. Like many people, my own parent's beliefs were ingrained in me. But, as I grew, so did my thirst for knowledge. And once you put philosophy and religion side by side, you realize it was a system initially built with political ambitions, to suppress free thought and opposition.

Most people, with whom I have tried to discuss this with, throw back scripture that I spent much of my own childhood memorizing. When I mention Horus, they are usually unfamiliar. The Egyptian Sun God of 3000 B.C., shares many similarities throughout his life as Jesus; from their birth sequences to their deaths. In fact, defining moments that help create the myth of Horus, are identical to those that we know to be Jesus' life. Which leads me to question, who plagiarized who, when Horus' story predates Christianity.

Before I lay out their lifespans, I wanted to point out some additional interesting facts, I learned just today; that may not add anything to what I've researched below, but serve for even more controversy. In Luke 11:34-36, Jesus says: "The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body is full of light...". Horus, was depicted as a creature who had a man's body and the head of an eagle or falcon, and is famously know for the 'Eye of Horus'. It is a symbol, of only one of his eyes and can be found numerous times throughout Egyptian History. In this article, I was sure to include a picture of the 'Eye of Horus', as well as a lesser known carving, held at Chartres Cathedral, called "Jesus In The Eye". You will also notice that early recreations of Jesus always show, 'the son of God', in front of the sun. Expect no different from Horus, who is the 'son of God' as well.

Timeline of Horus & Jesus

Jesus was conceived of a virgin. (Matthew 1:23 and Luke 1:27)
Horus was conceived of a virgin.

Jesus was the “only begotten son” of the god Yahweh. (Mark 1:11)
Horus was the “only begotten son” of the god Osiris.

The mother of Jesus was Mary. Sometimes referred to as Maria (Gospel of Mark) or Miriam.
The mother of Horus was Meri.

The foster father of Jesus was Joseph.
The foster father of Horus was Jo-Seph.

Joseph was of royal descent, being from the House of David.
Jo-Seph was of royal descent.

Jesus was born in cave. (Some accounts say Jesus was born in a manger in a barn or stable.)
Horus was born in a cave. (source unknown)

The coming birth of Jesus was announced to Mary by an angel. (Luke 1:34)
The coming birth of Horus was announced to his mother by an angel.

The birth of Jesus was heralded by a star in the East (where the Sun rises in the morning). (Matthew 2:2 and Matthew 2:9)
The birth of Horus was heralded by the star Sirius (the morning star).

Modern Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25. (This coincides with a variety of pagan holidays, not just Horus. Most obvious, of course, is the Winter Solstice.)
Ancient Egyptians celebrated the birth of Horus on the Winter Solstice (December 21/22).

The birth of Jesus was announced by an angel. (Luke Chapter 2)
The birth of Horus was announced by an angel.

Jesus was visited by shepherds at his birth. (Luke Chapter 2)
Horus was visited by shepherds at his birth.

Jesus was visited by magi (astrologers or wise men) at his birth. Tradition says there were three of them. (Matthew Chapter 2)
Horus was visited by “three solar deities” art his birth.

After the birth of Jesus, Herod tried to have him murdered. (Matthew 2:16)
After the birth of Horus, Herut tried to have him murdered. This may be more of a coincidence, as the Herod in the time of Jesus is a historical figure.

To hide from Herod, an angel tells Joseph to “arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” (Matthew 2:13)
To hide from Herut, the god That tells Isis, “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.”

When Jesus (and other Jews) come of age, they have a special ritual called a Bar Mitzvah.
When Horus came of age, he had a special ritual where hsi eye was restored.

Jesus was 12 at his coming-of-age ritual.
Horus was 12 at his coming-of-age ritual.

Jesus has no official recorded history between age 12 and 30.
Horus has no official recorded history between age 12 and 30.

Jesus was baptized in the river Jordan. (Matthew 3:6, Mark 1:5)
Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus.

Jesus was baptized at age 30.
Horus was baptized at age 30.

Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. (Matthew, Mark and Luke)
Horus was baptized by Anup the Baptizer.

John was later beheaded. (Matthew Chapter 14, Mark Chapter 6)
Anup was later beheaded.

Jesus was taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-nemesis Satan. (Mark 1:13)
Horus was taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Set.

Jesus successfully resists.
Horus successfully resists.

Jesus has 12 disciples, although their names are in dispute.
Horus has 12 disciples.

Jesus walked on water (Matthew 14:22, Mark 6:45, John 6:16), cast out demons (Mark 7:26), healed the sick (Matthew 4:23, Mark 1:32), and restored sight to the blind (John Chapter 9).
Horus walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, and restored sight to the blind.

Jesus commanded the sea to be still by saying, “Peace, be still.” (Luke 8:25)
Horus “stilled the sea by his power.”

Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave. (John 11:38)
Horus raised his dead father (Osiris) from the grave. (Note the similarity in names when you say them out loud. Further, Osiris was also known as Asar, which is El-Asar in Hebrew, which is El-Asarus in Latin.)

Lazarus was raised, or at least lived, in Bethany (literally, “house of Anu”). (John 12:1)
Osiris was raised in the town of Anu.

Jesus delivered a Sermon on the Mount.
Horus delivered a Sermon on the Mount.

Jesus was crucified.
Horus was crucified.

Jesus was crucified next to two thieves.
Horus was crucified next to two thieves.

Jesus was buried in a tomb. (John 19:42)
Horus was buried in a tomb.

Jesus was sent to Hell and came back “three days” later.
Horus was sent to Hell and resurrected in 3 days.

Jesus had his resurrection announced by women.
Horus had his resurrection announced by women.

Jesus is said to return for a 1000-year reign. (Revelation 20:4)
Horus is said to return for a 1000-year reign.

Jesus was known as the Christ (which means “anointed one”).
Horus is known as KRST, the anointed one.

Jesus has been called the good shepherd (John 10:11, 10:14), the lamb of God (John 1:29, 1:36), the bread of life (John 6:35, John 6:48), the son of man (many places), the Word, the fisher, and the winnower.
Horus has been called the good shepherd, the lamb of God, the bread of life, the son of man, the Word, the fisher, and the winnower.

Jesus is associated with the zodiac sign of Pisces (the fish).
Horus is associated with the zodiac sign of Pisces (the fish).

Jesus is associated with the symbols of the fish, the beetle, the vine, and the shepherd’s crook.
Horus is associated with the symbols of the fish, the beetle, the vine, and the shepherd’s crook.

Jesus was born in Bethlehem (”the house of bread”). (Matthew 2:1)
Horus was born in Anu (”the place of bread”).

The infant Jesus was carried into Egypt to escape the wrath of Herod. Concerning the infant Jesus, the New Testament states the following prophecy: “Out of Egypt have I called my son.” (See Point 13) (Matthew 2:15)
The infant Horus was carried out of Egypt to escape the wrath of Typhon.

Jesus was transfigured on the mount.
Horus was transfigured on the mount.

The catacombs of Rome have pictures of the infant Horus being held by his mother, not unlike the modern-day images of “Madonna and Child.”

Noted English author C. W. King says that both Isis and Mary are called “Immaculate”.

Jesus says: “Now is the Son of Man glorified and God is glorified in him. If God is glorified in him, God will glorify the Son in himself, and will glorify him at once.”
Horus says: “Osiris, I am your son, come to glorify your soul, and to give you even more power.”

Jesus is identified with the Tau (cross).
Horus was identified with the Tau (cross).

Below is an inscription that is roughly 3500 years old. It is on the walls of the Temple of Luxor in Egypt. It describes that enunciation, the immaculate conception, the birth, and the adoration of Horus.

In the words of Thomas Paine, from an article about The Free Masonary's (HERE:

The christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: both are derived from the worship of the Sun. The difference between their origin is, that the christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun,


canucklehead_ken said...

Curious. How much research did you do to fact-check the information presented in the movie Zeitgiest? I'm not for or against the information presented but I'm also not ready to call any of it "fact" as facts have to be provable.

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Ava said...

I've read all of this information before, this list is used verbatim on multiple websites. No where else that I have looked have offered legitimate facts to back these claims. It seems that in a rush to disprove a major world religion, skeptics have relied on sources that agree with their agenda without being skeptical of them. Strange, the name "skeptic" implies something much different than blindly accepting facts given to them by someone else.

I'm all for being skeptical. In fact I'm skeptical of everything, and that is why I am skeptical of this article. I am all for free thought and free expression of those thoughts. But free thought must be based on more solid and rational than something you heard from someone else and kind of liked. If you really want to substantiate these claims then go to a library and do the research yourself instead of taking the information directly from Zeitgiest and a rather poorly written website that misconstrues historical facts of both Jesus, Horus and the relationship that these two figures had to both the ancient world and one another. I'm not saying that these two figures WEREN'T related and have NO similarities, but I do feel that these facts have been manipulated in the very same way you accuse organized religion of manipulating peoples minds.
You are blinded by hatred, and maybe you yourself should be more wary of who you turn to for information.

The bottom line is that the problems with organized religion are not problems inherent in the messages of those religions, but instead are problems inherent in humanity. Instead of blaming societies ills on factions of people (Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, etc) we should instead realize that we are all part of the problem. I am just as much to blame for the evils of society as you, or anyone else reading this blog, and that we should look at ourselves and our short comings closely and try to fix them in order to make society a better place.

Just a thought.

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Bryn said...

Wow great comment Ava!..and interesting blog Amy!

I've been looking into these parallels between Jesus and certain mythological characters and I must say that if I apply the same ruthless treatment of skepticism and questioning to these connections between Jesus and Horus (or other godmen) it's amazing how quickly the arguments come undone.

It is constantly being questioned whether the source information regarding Jesus can be trusted yet what of the source info regarding these connections? Looking at unbiased (that is purely factual....not trying to argue a case) information regarding Horus it is extremely hard to draw these parallels. Where did you come across all these parallels Amy? Was it from a site (or book) about Horus (purely factual) or was it from a source arguing the connection between Jesus and Horus?

All I really want to say is that if you dig deep enough you'll learn the truth. As a Christian I don't hide from my doubts, I confront them. I actively search for information regarding arguments against Jesus and at times I come across some seriously good arguments which have me questioning a lot of things. Although this may be the case, I have always found answers (stating things in a factual, unbiased manner) often within 24 hours. This makes me question that if the some of the strongest arguments against my beliefs have such readily available answers, then surely my beliefs seem quite feasible?

So often we say we look for this sort of info as deeply as we can yet it's very easy to stop searching once we find some info that suits us. I challenged you (all) to question what you know, and what sources you trust. Extremely often I am told that my beliefs are rubbish am never given any ounce of proof, yet expected to provide insane amounts of proof to substantiate my beliefs. Think of things this way; every doubt is actually a belief. What is it that you're doubting? Now flip it. What is it you believe which causes that doubt? If you treat all of your doubts in fact as beliefs (which is what they are essentially) then seek the same proof which is demanded from Christians regarding their beliefs, I think you'll find your world view isn't as solid as it seemed. that was a long post :P Sorry!

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